Conversation with a (Real) Federal Vision Pastor

Pastor Wes White, a critic of the Federal Vision, recently posted an imaginary conversation [note: he has since deleted this post and most of his writings on the FV] with an Federal Vision minister, which he claims represents the Federal Vision. He was then challenged on his understanding of what a pastor and advocate of the Federal Vision would actually say, and therefore put together a series of quotes to back up his claims here. We believe that he does not treat these texts in their proper context. Pastor White appears to be unwilling to admit that he has taken quotes out of context, and he also is unwillling to contact the individuals who wrote them to clarify what they meant.

We felt that the best way to illustrate his faulty understanding was to replace his imaginary Federal Vision Pastor with a real one.

Pastor Douglas Wilson, of Christ Church, in Moscow, Idaho answers these same questions. Pastor Wilson is a proponent of the Federal Vision, and drafted the Joint Federal Vision Profession. Prior to the following recording, he had not read Pastor White’s imaginary conversation.

Part I

Part II – a follow-up Q/A.

In Part II we followed up on the questions and answers from an imaginary “confused parishioner.” Since the original video was deleted by Wes White, some of the back-and-forth represented here doesn’t fully make sense. The dialogue included “so I can lose my justification?” answered in the affirmative by the “imaginary FV pastor”. And obviously here Doug Wilson contradicts that assumption of Wes White.